Burn In Hell

My vision of heaven includes thousands of Nazis saying "damn did we fuck up."

My vision of hell includes thousands of Christians saying "damn glad we're not over there with those Nazis."Truly I must wonder how people reconcile the concepts of "Your walk with Christ" with the concept of "Once you're saved you're saved." See - people can lose a faith. And ya know what - that's cool. You're allowed - completely allowed - to go either way on the issue at any time. And people do. A lost faith does not make you less of a person but nor does it make you get the rewards for your faith. A gained faith late in life does not make you less of a person nor less of a Christian. And it wont bar you from Heaven.

Now of course it says that we will all be resurected in a Renew Earth after an endtime. Honestly - I tend not to have a problem with this concept. As a Christian the posit of something greater than myself and greater than our experience doesn't bug me. I disbelieve Marcus' proposal that if Aliens were to come to earth we simply would not be able to encorporate them into our experience and would simply not see them.

But ok - so I have faith that there's a definite end to creation - this doesn't make me a doomsayer. Newton said there's no reason to think that the earth will end before 2012, and I tend to think it will end long after that. Come on - we need to get to the point of spaceships. But still - I'm going to the party.

Ya know what - I kinda want to simply get those finals proofs of the end of existance. BUT ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC.

Firstly - I see Hell as the ultimate torture - separation from God. Now I am firstly going to take a basic posit that God is good. I am now going to say that since God is good, good is God. Seems straight forward (disagree? ARGUE WITH ME DAMNIT) - well then separation from all good. Now - pleasure is good. Sweet - SO all the "joy you get from sinning" would be gone. All the joy you get is gone. All your happiness is gone. You essentially become worse off than a bored 15 year old.

That's a scary prospect. Meaning of course that in normalness Hell is exactly what you wanted. More horrible than you could ever have imagined - more horrible than anyone could imagine. But exactly what you wanted.

I know as a young child I prayed "God - go away, stop bugging me". I wanted to be in Hell essentially. I just didn't know what I was asking. And God of course knew and decided to ignore me and instead keep try to help - in His infinite caring (I will question His judgement sometimes, but that's mostly because I know me and I know not true Good). If you die telling God to go away - why would He force you into ultimate communion with Him? So He sends you to be with the Angels that rejected Him. Seems like a fair trade. And I think it is. However He knows better. And He weeps at the loss of this soul. Sound crazy? Well it fucking is. It fucking is. So much compassion He's willing to do something bad for you if you ask it... And yet then promises at the end of time He will stop it and save you again. That's a promise of joy - not punishment. SURE evil is punished but truly it's a different understand.

See - the reason people burned to a crisp when they got too near God in the Old Testament was that they were not Good and could not stand the presence of pure Good. So they burned. Strange but yet somehow right. But that's not the way it works anymore - see none of us own our own evils. God owns our evils. He has sent them away and literally healed us of sin due to the Resurection.

And now I think I might sound crazy - but this is how I understand. And this is how I want to be. And this is why my mind hurts.